Neil
was a deck cadet with P&O from 1977 through 1981. He qualified from
Cardiff college. His ships were Ardmay (Oct 77 to Mar 78), Strathardle
(May 79 to Sept 78), Ardlui (Apr 79 to Aug 79), Wild Fulmar (Sept 79 to
Feb 80), Oriana (Mar 80 to June 80) and finally Stratheden in 1981 to
complete sea time and then as 3/O before being made redundant in early
1982 at a time when many officers were being let go in the downward spiral
of the British Merchant Navy at the time.
Neil
writes;
I
loved the 3 1/2 months on Oriana, I joined in Sydney, did 2 cruises, then
the line voyage, then 2 cruises from Southampton, one Med and one
Caribbean. I remember the Krankies being on board, they were great fun;
and Peter Gordeno and his dancers, who liked to sunbathe on the Monkey
Island. Unfortunately I don't remember too many of the officers or crew by
name, although I did have the greatest respect for Commodore Wacher, a
tremendous seaman. I remember Captain Scott-Mason, Captain Tompkins and
Chief Officer Roger Knight, someone who I had a couple of run ins with but
who was a nice guy really! I can't even remember the full names of the
other cadets on board, just first names, though I did see a couple of them
again after Oriana. I also remember plenty of other people on board, but
names completely escape me.
A
group in the Oriana wardroom. Mike Fitzgerald is in the middle, I have
recognised him from this site, I am second right between the 2 WAP's,
looking pretty worse for wear, and the WAP between Mike and I was called
Caroline - I seem to have a few pictures of her!
Caroline
and I the same night. I don't remember her surname, but do remember she
was from the North East.
Above
and below were taken by the ship's photographer with passengers.
The
things we had to do!!!!
Since
reluctantly leaving the sea in 82 I have carved out a career in IT and
have been with Motorola for 19 years. Luckily my job still involves a lot
of travel, but I do miss the sea probably more now than I did when I was
younger. Your web site only makes me even more nostalgic and wishing I
could turn back the clock! (me too Neil, I don't
know why I do it to myself). I am married for the second time and
have a 19 year old son at Manchester University studying Chemistry and
Forensics.
Now
that’s a face I know so well but I don’t think I ever spoke to Neil.
When I first saw this picture yesterday the hairs on the back of my neck
stood on end and I felt like I’d been transported in time and was
walking into Oriana’s Restaurant under the watchful eye of this man.
The
above picture is Neil on the SS Strathden as a Writer in 1952 and shows
him dressed ready to go ashore in Sydney. The ship used to stay there for
7 days in those days due to the cargo they carried. Neil was the youngest
writer in the company at that time.
He
was also the youngest Head Waiter in the company being on the SS
Strathmore in 1962 and running the aft restaurant at only 27 years old
when most other Head Waiters were in their 50's !
Neil
sailed as Maitre d'Hotel on SS Oriana from 1975 until she was withdrawn
from service and sold to the Japanese. When he took the golden handshake
after Oriana was sold he’d been running the restaurants on most of the
P&O ships plus Sun Princess (Ex Spirit of London) for nearly 25 years
!
He
thinks he got out at the right time !
This
is Neil more recently taken about 2 years ago.
Courtesy
of Dave Traynor
Here’s
a great shot of Neil. Dave Traynor believes Neil’s looking pensive but I
reckon he’s had one too many of those VBs. What’s the truth Bob?
Nic
is the our 2nd son of Terry Wild. He joined Ocean Fleet's and served as a Marine
Engineer Cadet on;
the tanker
Cyclops,
mv
Sherbro
and
mv Barbermemnon.
He finished
his cadetship and got married. He then worked for BICC and then at Pirelli
Cables as Product Manager Connectors and Tooling. He did Open an University
course and got his BSc. He now teaches in a Liverpool Comprehensive School.
Nick & I were at the MRGC @ Manchester together and sailed on Oriana & Canberra. Nick was an R/O but also spent time as a lecky on Canberra (We
wouldn't have him in the radio room). Anyway if anyone knows where Nick is, I would love to hear from
them.
I'm
pleased to say Nick has contacted me and would love to hear from any of
his old shipmates.
That’s
Taffy inside a salt water evaporator with Dave
George. That was one of those wonderful jobs we had to do in Dry Dock
to blast the deposits off the evaporators that made the fresh water from
sea water.
Here’s
Taffy with John Speed and the famous
Mickey Mouse.
Nick
Wilson (son of Bill whom I sailed with) completed his cadetship at Warsash and
joined QM2 in New York as 3rd engineer. The above photo was taken on his passing out day in Southampton.
( Nick is in the back row second from left ).
His first sea time was on the QE2 and
he also had 2 months on Sea Princess and 2 months on Oriana. He just missed sailing with
Dave Jewkes as the day Nick joined Oriana Dave was going on leave.
Courtesy of Bill Wilson
This
was taken on the Sea Princess last year.
Courtesy
of Bill Wilson
Bill
writes;
Here's
a photo of Nick and I (Father and Son) in the E.C.R. on QM2 during a Transatlantic
Crossing from New York. Nick is home on leave with us now and will be sailing again with
Marty Elliot as Chief Engineer when he rejoins QM2 in November.
Nigel
joined the RN after a year at Inde in 1978, left in 1989, and now works as a hydrographic surveyor mainly for the oil and gas industry.
He is due to join the OSV Relume working on the Greater Gabbard wind farm.
Nigel
joined P&O in 1966 as an engineer & sailed on Orcades, Oronsay,
Chusan, Canberra & Himalaya.
Nigel
was 2nd VO on Chusan in 1968. Mike Maskell thinks Nigel is checking to see
if the VB is off. It's maybe one left over from the night before. Been
there done that.
Courtesy
of Mike Maskell
Mike
adds "the first Gin of the day always tastes the best".
Nigel
was in the Purser Dept on Canberra and has a large collection of photos
and other sea memorabilia, the best of which will be posted in Nigel's
Memories.
Nigel
now runs his own business called Kleentec
Marine marketing products to improve visibility from a ship's
bridge.
Noël
(a quite beautiful female as you can undoubtedly see) was the first Show
Dancer on Canberra in 1979, and was onboard for 9 months. She became an
Entertainment Officer and spent 3 yrs Aussie Cruising on Oriana in the
early 1980's, then onto Sea Princess and back to Canberra before leaving
in 1986. She returned to Sea in 2003 as a Cruise Director (not for
P&O), but after 17 yrs ashore being back in the performing business
was fantastic. However when she's at Sea she wants to be performing ashore
and when ashore she wants to be back at Sea!! Some people are never
pleased!
Most
definitely Noel is a woman :)
Noël
sent me this great email;
"Thank
you for all your updates on the Seadogs site. It was Mike Clare, Paddy
Clare's brother who first told me about the site. I have amazingly made
contact with Kit Williams who wrote
Paddy's obit for the site. I never knew her at Sea but she flew to the UK
for some work on Easter Sunday and we met up that week. All in just 7 days
since I first dared to Email her. I would love to attend the Canberra
reunion on Oriana."
and
this one;
Dear
Steve,
I
joined Canberra in April 1979 as the first "Show Dancer" and
stayed there until November of the same year. In 1982, I was contacted and
asked to return to Canberra, then a couple of days before I was due to
join she was requisitioned for the Falklands. I went on a desperate
job-search, got into "No No Nanette" in Berlin. I was suddenly
whisked off to P&O to join Oriana in Sydney. I had a great 10 weeks,
then went to Jersey to fulfil the contract I had then procured. Whilst in
the show in Jersey, I was approached again by P&O. As soon as I
finished in Jersey, I went straight back to Oriana, still based in Sydney.
I stayed with Oriana as Ents Officer until 1984. In 1985, I went to Sea
Princess, then onto Canberra.
I
had a huge car accident in 1986, this culminated in me taking the
"Voluntary Severance" that was offered at this time. I wasn't
fit to work at Sea at that time. I met Paddy Clare in 1982 and we remained
friends until his death. We were very close for a long while, and I still
have the Irish Cleideigh Ring he gave me!! I shall never forget his
Mother's comments, or the look on Mike and Rose's face (his wife) as we
sat, well I sat, in Mike and Rose's sitting room. Mike told me that they
gave Paddy a VERY hard time, and strong talking to, when Paddy decided to
remain single. Mike said Rose wrote to me after Paddy's death, but somehow
the letter was returned to them. As Mike said, maybe she wasn't exact on
my address. I was probably one of very many that Paddy declared his love
to!! I have often wanted to visit Paddy's grave but haven't wished to
intrude on the Clare Family. Speaking to Mike Clare yesterday, he filled
in many gaps and was very open with warmth that I should indeed visit
Paddy's, and Rose's graves. To all the others who loved Paddy, we are the
richer for it.
I
stayed in the entertainment business ashore. Slowly, I rebuilt my life
after the 1986 car accident. I was lucky for many years as an actress in
London's West End. In 2003, I saw an advert for a Cruise Director. In 9
days time I was on Discovery, (the old IP), as Cruise Director. I had a
brilliant time. I was then to go on 'Saga Rose' in 2005 until January
2006. On Saga, I worked with a lovely young lady called Laura Batchelor.
I'm actually older than her Parents, but we never notice the age gap, as
we laughed our way through "The Saga Way", we kept friendship as
I left Saga, then so did she. Laura was prompted by my P&O tales to
join P&O as Ents Officer in February this year. I wait to hear from
her. I hope she still has the "laughter" that got us through
Saga, many ports, and times ashore back in UK. Thanks to the two of us,
three guys were arrested in Panama, we didn't even realise we were being
followed, and were slightly shocked when armed Police came into the
Internet cafe we were in, talk about armed guard.
As
we sat and had dinner ashore in Madeira on Christmas Eve, looking at Saga
Rose berthed on the other side of the Harbour, we both thought the same
thought: "We could just go to the Airport and fly home now". We
never discussed this with each other until we had left Saga, but were then
stunned that we had both shared the same thought. "Things ain't wot
they used to be". I'm sure times have changed on P&O, but we
certainly learnt the best way of doing things. P&O memories will stay
with me forever. I made great friends then and have kept in touch with
many: Leslie (nee Holden) and Guy Richards, Manta Patterson, Sue Baker,
Penny (nee Brister) now married to Torbjorn Matissen ( a Chief Engineer
with Crystal Cruises), Gilly Fields, Billy Strachan, Caroline Dennis, Dee
Johnston, and recently met up with Jay, a Dancer. I'd seen her several
times at Workshops it was her FIJI T-Shirt that gave her away, so we got
talking. Jimmy Dene still works as a DJ. He scares the life out of
residents and holiday makers to La Marina is Spain, 30 minutes south of
Alicante. For ages I had contact with "Sir John" Evans, Malcolm
Rushan, Paul Barry, (I think my mother still has contact with Paul and
Judy). Whilst working with Caroline at Chichester Festival Theatre,
Annette Shufflebottom (nee George), was an usherette there and made
herself known to me. I had a lovely day and lunch with her near Chichester
at her home. "Shuff" was away at Sea at the time. I waiver now
between longing to be back at Sea, and loving my work ashore. I tell
myself I must create "An Act", so I can fill in the lean times
ashore, and be at Sea.
At
present I work as an Etiquette Advisor. In 2006 I did Deportment Coach
and Etiquette and was Assistant to the Choreographer for the BBC's
production of "Jane Eyre". I was Etiquette Advisor on "The
Other Boleyn Girl" that will be released by Sony as a Block Buster
Film later in 2007, starring Scarlett Johansson, Natalie Portman and Eric
Bana, and Kristen Scott Thomas. I also danced in this. At present I am the
Etiquette Advisor on "Sense and Sensibility" for the BBC. We are
just filming so it will no doubt be shown later this year. Jean Marsh,
Janet McTeer, David Morrissey, Mark Williams and Christopher Beeny are
some of the stars. I am also dancing in "Sense and Sensibility"!
Oh Yes, there is life in the old girl yet!! I teach Historical Dance every
Thursday evening at Central School of Ballet, Herbal Hill, near Faringdon,
London. It starts at 7pm and is a Drop-In class so anyone can come. You
need never have danced before, all ages are welcome. The bliss of
Historical dance is: People danced as a social act right up to their
death. We are always short of men, you do not need a partner, many dances
are group dances. I will make you very welcome.
I
was on Canberra in 1979 when Mike Carr and Angie first got
"Talking" on a Beach Party. Angie was an Ents Off at that time,
I later sailed with them on Oriana once they were married. I met up with
Jon Dobson in late 1980's when I was on tour in Newcastle. PAG (Paul Arden
Griffiths) came up to me one night at the CAA, in London to say
"Hello". Mathew McLaughlin now works in a Florist, (owned by his
partner) in Windsor, where I was born and brought up. What delight I had
one day to go in and quote those famous "My Fair Lady" lines:
"Working in a Common Little Flower Shop". Mathew's face was
classic! I was in a production at the Theatre Royal Windsor at the time.
Probably most of the ex P&O friends I stay in touch with are
Entertainers. Strangely though, whilst Officers always thought us as
"Light-Weight" with P&O, they still come round to a Stage
Door and say "Hi", or send a note c/o my Agent or Equity if they
hear me on the Radio, or see me on TV. I'll never be a
"Celebrity" but I always went into performing because I love the
techniques of the art form.
What
is it though that bites us with the Sea? So many of the photos on the site
are so dated, yet you can smell and hear the atmosphere and the bug is
still there. What drove people to behave like that, they never do ashore -
Do they?!! I laughed till I cried at the story of how The Bopper got his
wrist broken, there is a sit-com there somewhere. Well Mike Clare was with
P&O originally too. You have just wasted about three hours of my time
as I surfed the Website!! What memories it evoked, how I laughed. I shall
now tell others I am in touch with about the site.
Job
well done, Thank you.
Noël
Butler
You're
very welcome, thanks for sharing your life and intimate memories with
us.